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11:34pm 12/05/2003
 
 
Benjamin
I finally saw it today, and yeah, I dug it. My favorite character was Tiny. Tiny was just waaaay too cool. The rest of the family were all these fucked-up psychos, but he was just like "Hey, they're the nuts here, I'm just the ugly guy in the basement." He went along with them, 'cause they were family, but he really didn't do anything especially evil. Yeah, he was a bad guy, but he offered the chick some cereal, (Agatha Crunchies, lol!) and let her go when she asked to be let go. When the main bad guy got pissed at him for that, he just shrugged, as if to say, "What? She asked nicely".
As a whole, the movie was an excellent example of the genre. I'm not a big fan of horror movies personally, but this was definitely one of the best. I like colinzen's theory that Rob Zombie's entire musical career was done simply to raise funding to make this movie. It that's true, it was worth it. I look forward to seeing Rob's next film.
mood: cheerfulcheerful
music: Skinny Puppy - Convulsion (-: Digital Gunfire :-)
 
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 jeweldevil
 
08:53pm 12/05/2003 (UTC)
 
 
J Daniel Valencia
what explains dee sneiders attempt with strangeland? that could have been so much better.
 
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 kires
 
09:32pm 12/05/2003 (UTC)
 
 
Benjamin
I thought it was pretty good as it was. In truth, it's one of my all-time favorites, from a philosophical standpoint, at least. I agree, though, It could have been better, but then it would have alienated even more people than it did. I thought he talked too much, but then if he didn't, then a large(r) chunk of the audience would have completely missed the actual point of his actions, and seen him as just another movie bad guy. I saw a bit more in his character's intent. FOr example, the one victim that "died" did so because she had a weak heart, not because he succeeded in an attempt to kill her. His "victims" were not starved, or beaten, or kept in unsanitary conditions. They were tortured, but no with anything more extreme than other people do to themselves. Even that was done under sterile conditions, with care taken to prevent infection or "injury". I'm not defending his actions, I'm just pointing out aspects of them that were probably overlooked by must of the audience. But yeah, basically, I agree with all his ideas, except for the whole nonconsensual thing he had going on. I disagree with him pretty strongly on that count, for a few reasons.

1. Forcing your beliefs or pleasures on another is wrong, pure and simple. Aside from the differences in magnitude, murder, rape, name calling, assault, and evangelism are all the same kind of wrong to me. They're all examples of the morals/beliefs/pleasures of one forced on another.

2. Pain is a bad thing, but also a precious and private thing. Like one's feelings and/or genitals, it's not something to wave around in public (at least that's how I see it). Or to show or much less force on some poor unwilling soul. Besides, if one believes, as Dee's character claims to, that pain is some wondrous, transcendental thing, then why would he waste effort and time and risk prosecution to give such a fine gift to those that neither want it, nor have the faculty to appreciate it? Makes no sense to my little brain. But hey, it's a movie, so I guess that means that it's because the writer says so.

I agree that it could have been done better. What would you change to that end?
 
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10:01pm 12/05/2003 (UTC)
 
 
J Daniel Valencia
I found a powerful aspect to have been his duality. When he was "reformed" he was trying to be a decent guy. He was like an addict. He couldn't get back into the "scene" without becoming a problem. But when he was apprehended towards the ending, pretty much ripped away from his salvation defeated, by being forced to become the very thing the townspeople didn't want. I REALLY felt for him when he had that sad and defeated look when they were crowding him into the car.

As far as the other elements, i don't really see pain and that sort of thing any different than i see sex. it is not bad until it gets forced on someone.
 
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 kires
 
01:31am 14/05/2003 (UTC)
 
 
Benjamin
I found a powerful aspect to have been his duality. When he was "reformed" he was trying to be a decent guy. He was like an addict. He couldn't get back into the "scene" without becoming a problem.

Yeah, something like an evangelist for freedom through suffering, just had to spread the good word, lol.

But when he was apprehended towards the ending, pretty much ripped away from his salvation defeated, by being forced to become the very thing the townspeople didn't want. I REALLY felt for him when he had that sad and defeated look when they were crowding him into the car.

He wanted to be good, but they just couldn't leave him alone, they just HAD to go and fuck with the reformed psycho. They brought the monster back by ceremonially killing the man he'd become. Through their anger and blindness, they showed him in no uncertain terms that he was unwanted, regardless of his actions. So having what he had gained stripped away, he naturally reverted to what he knew, but this time, with his anger and malice increased by an order of magnitude or 2.
 
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01:45am 14/05/2003 (UTC)
 
 
J Daniel Valencia
exactly
 
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